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Author: NHS_Facts
Date Posted: 2012-06-25
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Supreme Court Decision on health care is really a reminder of what is so wrong with USA on so many levels
US Supreme Court ruling on the so called health care reform that Obama Admin passed in 2010 is really a reminder of what is so WRONG with USA in so many levels. After all it is 2012, the ENTIRE developed World has had Government run Socialized health care (NHS) for decades, as a result of which all their people have health care while they spend 50% LESS on health care than US where 50-Million+ people do not have health care, repeat they spend 50% LESS, not MORE, but LESS, while all their people have health care, because they operate health care on Socialized basis.

And Obama Admin passes a JOKE of a health care reform that is anything buy NHS.
And Republicans are such TRUE ENEMY of Nation that they call this JOKE of health care reform to be Socialism and want to stay with Wall Street run health care, rather than support NHS which is 100% supported by ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc.

And then the Supreme Court is going to decide whether this JOKE of a health care reform is Constitutional! Hardy har har, if Republican lunatics, HOAX Democrats and the lying US Media think this is funny and that in the Internet age we cannot see through this sham.


About Affordable Health Care Act (AHCA), what Republican lunatics call "Obama Care"

The Affordable Health Care Act (AHCA), what Republican lunatics and Psycho Media in USA call "Obama Care", is really a TOTAL JOKE of a reform as is, given the FACT that it mandates us to buy health care from the same Wall Street backed companies that have brought us the current bankrupting system, without (our) Government tightly regulating what they can charge OR given the FACT that 2 year since it passage number of American without health care has gone up by few Million rather than going down to ZERO.

To be exact it has a few good provisions in it, such as ending denial of health care to Children under pre-existing condition clause, which TRULY is/was a crime against Humanity, but it does not end the same denial of health care against Adults, at least not until 2014.

But beside a few good steps forward, AHCA falls far short of achieving Universal health care and equally as important it TOTALLY fails to reduce health care costs which only Government run Universal Socialized health care (NHS) can do which is why it is 100% supported by ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc.

More on above facts here at: Physicians for a National Health Program

If you do not know how NHS gives health care to all while cut health care spending by about 50%, then either read how Europe, Israel, Canada, etc. do it or you can read the summary of how they do it here.


What Supreme Court should do?

1st, Supreme court justices should cover their head in shame for having contributed in their way to USA being such a miserable country that it is 2012 and it still does not have something as essential as Universal Nationalized Health Care (aka NHS), something that ALL developed Nations have!

Justices should ask Obama Admin why did you pass such a JOKE of a health care reform that mandates people to buy health insurance from same Wall Street owned companies that have brought us the current bankrupting health care system! Why did you not pass Single Payer health, which is 100% supported by Conservative parties in UK, Israel, etc. so that every American would have health care FREE for Taxes they ALREADY pay while cutting health care spending, thus Deficits, by $1-Trillion per year

Justices should ask GOP, what TRUE ENEMY of Nation are you psychos to actually oppose NHS! Given that NHS SAVES 50% on cost of health care while giving health care to ALL! Which is why ALL Conservative parties in the WORLD are 100% for their NHS!


Can AHCA be fixed and turned into a real health care reform?

Yes. But only if USA was not suffering from a TRUE ENEMY within, which is the Republican party & the right-wing Media/Cabal behind them.

To be exact: if you are going to Mandate People to buy health insurance, as is pretty much the case in Germany, Canada, etc. then you need these additional Mandates & Regulations:

1- Businesses are mandated to pay into the NHS, from which every working person is provided health care for Medicare Taxes they pay.

2- Heath insurance companies are regulated by Government as to how much they can charge, so for $60 to $200 per month you get total heath care with ZERO or $5 deductibles and NO bankrupting Co-pays, etc.

3- Heath insurance company execs salaries are regulated by the Government, just as our Government sets the salary of a 4 Start General, or an Admiral, etc. to be at no more than $250K per year, which is still a great salary for 98% of people, contrast this to CEO of United Health Care who made $124-Million last year!


Best outcome: Supreme court strikes down & we will then show to all what who the TRUE ENEMY with in is

So best thing that can happen is that those whoreees of Big Pharma, Big insurance, Big Corps (Wall Street), that is Supreme Court Justices will strike down the JOKE of health care reform that Obama Admin passed, and we will then make the next election to be about having Government run Socialized Single Payer Health Care (NHS).

We will then see how real Democrats are, what lunatics and TRUE ENEMY of the Nation Republicans and right-wing Media are. For how can you be against NHS once American People realize that NHS means they will have health care for FREE for Taxes that we already pay. NHS means that Americans just like British, Canadian, Israeli, etc. citizens when they go for health care they will get NO MORE bills, they will get health care for FREE for Taxes we already pay, WHILE cutting heath care spending by 50%, which means cutting the Deficits by $1-Trilion per year. And that is why all Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS. Let Republicans & lying US Media run against those FACTS and be destroyed.

But I guarantee you that the Supreme Court will find a way to approve most of the AHCA, what Republican lunatics call "Obama Care" , so that we end up with this sham of a reform that neither delivers Universal health care, Nor does it dramatically cut health care costs, because it mandates us to buy health insurance from the same Wall Street backed companies that have brought us the current bankrupting system without (OUR) Government tightly regulating what these for profit Wall Street run companies can charge, and on top of this Republicans are such lunatics, that they will label this health care reform that is anything but Socialized health care to be "the Crown Jewel of Socialism" as such buffoons as Bohner, Cantor, Bachman, Rush, Beck and other Republican psychos have already called it and will continuously chip away at it to tilt it even more and more in favor of the Big Pharma, Big Insurance, their Wall Street masters, and against the People under the total Con Job that this is "Socialism" when this health care reform is anything but Socialized health care, which is the ONLY way to operate the health care of a country and that is why ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their Socialized health care.


When all else fails then the Republican lunatics will resort to it is not "Constitutional"

As if we in the 21st Century are supposed to live by the thinking (Constitution) written by man living in 18th century, man who owned Slave, man who did NOT allow Women to Vote, man who did NOT have Government run Universal Socialized Health Care as a concept in their time since there was barely any health care at their time, so although these men were the most Liberal of their time, they still lived in 18th century.

Put another way, to see how silly it is, what a Con Job it is, to base the functioning of a Modern society on the thinking of men who lived in the 18th century: Where in the Constitution does it state that the Government has the right to set speed limits? Where in the Constitution does it state that the Fire Department should be paid from our Taxes and operated by the Government? Where in the Constitution does it state that the Federal Government should regulate the Food industry to deliver Food safely and free from bacteria? etc. services and regulations without which we would well be living in 18th century. Or lets consider some Republicans & right-wing Media's favorite Government spending: Where in the Constitution does it state that the Federal Government should pay Billions of Dollars per year to Israel or give blank check Military protection of Israel? Where in the Constitution does it state we should have Military bases in Europe, Japan, South Korea, etc.? And lets state this KILLER fact: which Israel, Europe, Japan, South Korea, etc. ALL have Government run Socialized health care so ALL their People have health care as a right.





Reference Articles:

1) Physicians for a National Health Program
http://www.pnhp.org/

2) Study links 45,000 U.S. deaths per year to lack of insurance
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/18/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090918

3) USA spends twice as much on health care than countries that have NHS
http://www.kff.org/insurance/snapshot/oecd042111.cfm

4) Even if ObamaCare passes Millions of Americans will have NO health insurance
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47876329/ns/health-health_care/t/millions-americans-may-still-go-without-health-insurance/#.T-h9XBeXSjA

5) Margaret Thatchers Conservative party is 100% for their Universal nationalized single payer health care
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Health.aspx

6) Health Care System in USA is best evidence of how EVIL this country is - take case of Niki White a beautiful 32 year old Woman KILLED due to being denied health care
http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=35948

7) Multi Million Dollar compensations of Big Health Care CEOS
http://sickforprofit.com/ceos/

8) Why only greedy bastards, Lunatics & Enemy of the Nation would be against Universal Government run Socialized Health care
http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=34590

9) Health Care is a Privilege: What the GOP Won’t Admit
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06/health-care-as-privilege-what-gop-wont-admit.html

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By Guest:   wapo
      
2012-07-13


Great article. To follow up:

This week, the House of Representatives voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act. On its own, such a vote would be unremarkable. Republicans control the House, they oppose President Obama’s health reform law, and so they voted to get rid of it.

But here’s the punchline: This was the 33rd time they voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Holding that vote once makes sense. Republicans had promised that much during the 2010 campaign. But 33 times? If doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result makes you insane, what does doing the same thing 33 times and expecting a different result make you?

Well, it makes you the 112th Congress. The Congress lead by the Republican lunatics.
More:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/13/13-reasons-why-this-is-the-worst-congress-ever/?hpid=z1

Now of course what makes above facts even worse is that:

1- ACA that Obama Admin passed is really a JOKE, since it is too little toward NHS
2- ACA was modeled after Romneycare which was proposed by Republicans (aka Heritage Foundation)

By Guest:   NoMoreLies
      
2012-07-09


Man who ever you are, you were absolutely right.
That is 1st Supreme court found a way to pass this joke of a health care reform. that is really a 100+Billion plus gift to Big Pharma & Big insurance. And 2nd, of course as a result of this Big Pharma & Big insurance stocks have been rising nicely since the passage of worst part of this law, that is mandate to buy health care from Big Pharma & Big insurance while the decent part of this law, that is expansion of medicare was struck down!

By Member: NHS_Facts
      
2012-07-09


This is one of the KEY reasons USA is such a miserable country now, that is for profit Wall Street run Health care trying to make the most Money, rather than having health care system that provides best health care, free from profit motivations, as is the case in the rest of the developed World.

So the ENTIRE developed World has had Government run Socialized health care (NHS) for decades, as a result of which all their people have health care while they spend 50% LESS on health care than US where 50-Million+ people do not have health care, repeat they spend 50% LESS, not MORE, but LESS, while all their people have health care, because they operate health care on Socialized basis.

And Obama Admin passes a JOKE of a health care reform that is anything buy NHS. A JOKE because it was written by Big Pharma & Big insurance, rather than by the People to have a Socialized health care system that gives best health care to all free of profit motivations.

And Republicans are such lunatics to call this gift to Bog Pharma to be "Socialism", which it is NOT at all as it needs to be.

By Guest:   NoMoreLies
      
2012-07-09


Also lets repeat this FACT: health care reform Obama Admin passed is a near JOKE of a reform since it is anything but NHS, in fact it is NOT even as Liberal as RomneyCare, which plan was originally proposed by the Ultra right-wing Heritage foundation! So Republicans are playing such Con Job on US to call their proposed plan to be "Socialism"!

By Guest:   Guest
      
2012-07-12


Sorry, I didn't realize the US was a miserable country. It may be going through a tough time, but it surely isn't miserable and other countries of the world are experiencing similar hardships.

Maybe I'm biased, though. As I gaze out the window of my moderately sized office, I can't help but wonder what happened to those kids in high school that never studied or did their homework and thought it was cool to skip school. Did they make it to college or do something else meaningful with their life? I hope they found a way to contribute to society instead of being a burden.

As I was thinking about this, my boss came in and started telling me about the engine in his Porsche Turbo that needs to be rebuilt. We laugh and say, "What's another $15k?" At least he still has his other Porsche to drive (and his Lexus just in case). After that, I started to mock him by saying that my Mercedes hasn't had any problems and he clearly chose the wrong luxury car. Again, laughter ensues.

At least we have our health.

By Guest:   cancord
      
2012-07-05


You Americans are just whacked. In Canada we have free health care and live much longer than you all to the south. Moreover, we are a much freer people...you guys cannot see how you get hoodwinked by Republicans. They are the party of large government and fear and loathing....eesh wake up!

By Member: Real_News
      
2012-07-01


Lets face the FACT, Republicans and the right-wing LYING Media that makes them possible are utter complete lunatics, they are TRUE ENEMY of American people.

After all who but the TRUE ENEMY of Nation would be for a health care system that results in 50Mill+ Americans having NO health care, at least 50,000+ KILLED each year due to being denied health care due to "pre-existing condition".

To be exact who but the TRUE ENEMY of Nation would be against Government run Universal Socialized Health care(NHS) which would give health care to all the People while cut health care spending by 50% and that is why ALL Conservative parties, repeat for Republican lunatics and lying US Media, ALL Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS.

And it gets worse: Obama Dems passed a JOKE of a health care reform, because it is anything but NHS, it is not even as liberal as Romneycare which reform was proposed by right-wing Heritage foundation and Republicans are such lunatics to still call it: "Crown jewel of Socialism"

By Guest:   real_patriot
      
2012-06-28


You are bang on target people.
That is health care reform that Obama Admin passed, is really a GIANT gift to the same Wall Street owned companies that have brought us the current bankrupting health care system.
Just look at what the Stocks of Big health care companies did after the Supreme Court ruling, they all SHOT UP, here:

HCA Holdings [HCA 28.70 2.09 (+7.85%)],
Community Health Systems [CYH 27.55 2.06 (+8.08%)] and Tenet Healthcare [THC 5.21 0.23 (+4.62%)].
Amerigroup [AGP 65.328 2.928 (+4.69%)]
Molina [MOH 22.95 1.63 (+7.65%)]

By Guest:   globalXQ
      
2012-06-25


I live in Norway. I have 3 children. When I was a student at the (free) university, the hospital found out that my daughter had a heart problem (actually two). We traveled to the hospital (we got a refund for the trip, parking etc) to examine the heart with x-ray and ultrasound etc. Then a few weeks later, she had a surgery (operated through a vein in her thigh in order to give a small scar). The operation and all the checkups were free. That is good to know when you are a student with little money.
I didn't have to do some illegal stuff to get enough money, and I didn't need no insurance.
Now that I work I don't mind paying taxes. First of all, I don't make that much money. Second my wife is home with the kids so I have to pay less taxes. I make about 4500 a month, and after tax I end up with about 3400 dollars.
With a healthcare system the state takes care of everybody. Yeah.. we pay for heart surgery for fat people and lung surgery for smokers.. and for people who can not afford to. So our health care system do not have to make a profit. They have to make people healthy.

By Member: Real_News
      
2012-06-26


WOW the same thing in USA would have cost you $50,000 and MORE, even if you had health insurance, unless you have Military type health insurance or worked for Google, etc., because our ruling elite in this country, that is the Wall Street gang that is behind Republican lunatics & HOAX Democrats, have sold American people this amazing Con Job that the same type of health care system that gives you free health care in Norway, free for Taxes you pay, which also exists in every other developer Nation, they have labeled that in USA as being:
"Socialism"
"Nanny State"
"Americans want to be Free to choose what health care they want"
etc. con job and insane non-sense.

And God help you or you 3 children in USA if you did not have health insurance, since then same heart surgery procedures would have easily cost you $250,000 and MORE, which means you could NOT pay them, which means your Child would DIE as do 50,000+ Americans each year due to being denied health care.

By Guest:   cancord
      
2012-06-25


I've lived in Canada all of my 60 years and for all of those years I have been covered by our national health care program. The program didn't go bust because of per-existing conditions that people had; the program didn't go bust because doctors left on mass and the program didn't go bust because of increased costs. We have adapted and frankly when I look at the zoo that you in the US call congress I despair that you will ever be able to take care of each other.

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