Republicans, Republicrats* and the right-wing (LYING) Media in US say they are worried about:
"Deficits soaring in US..."
"Massive Deficits in the US..",
"The Debt bomb..",
"US Government borrowing too much and ending up like Greece.."
and of course lets not forget this gem:
"Our Grandchildren are going to have to pay off this debt..."
Really!!!
Because it is their ideas, to be exact the right-wing ideas espoused by either Republicans or Republicrats that have caused the current enormous deficits in US and causing it go to higher. To see this FACT lets look at a country that has a huge Surplus rather than having a huge Deficit as US has. This observation then should be a blue print for what we need to do to get US Deficits down and in fact have a Surplus, which Republicans claims to want.
So what large country is having a Surplus rather than a Deficit? It is China.
What is China doing different than US?
First and foremost China is a Communist Capitalist country, which simply means BIG Government ensuring Job creation, ensuring price stability, etc. In simple term it means that large parts of Chinese economy are operated on Socialized basis, which means Government run. To put it even in simpler terms this means that just as we here in US run the Military, Police, Fire Dept, etc. on Socialized basis, they run much more on Socialized basis, in fact about 50% of Chinese economy is operated on Socialized basis. For example all Top banks in China are Nationalized (aka Government controlled), all Top energy companies in China are Nationalized, etc. And China has Universal Nationalized Health Care, Universal Education, etc. as a result of which Chinese people get free health care, free College education, etc..
Just think what HOAXes, what real ENEMY of American people Republicans and right-wingers are that on one hand they tell Americans:
"Government does not create Jobs...",
"Government is the problem and not the solution..."
"Government take over of health care is bad..."
etc.
and on the other hand they have invested Trillions of Dollars in China, which means have moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China, and China is a Communist Capitalist country with the Government controlling and running major parts of the economy.
In case you still do not get how much the Chinese Government controls the economy, how much "Stimulus" Chinese Government gives to Chinese people & businesses every day, JUST take the fact that all Top Chinese energy companies are Government owned, as a result of which Chinese Government subsidies the price of Gas so that Chinese people pay about $1.50 per Gallon. This would be the same as if US Government nationalized Exxon, Chevron, Texaco, etc. and gave American people Gas at $1.50 per Gallon, which means effectively take the $100s of Billions of Dollars in profit that these companies make, and $100 of Billions of Dollars that they pay their Top brass in $30Mill per year salaries and multiple $50Mill private Jets, and passing these savings to American people/businesses by subsiding Gas. This is JUST one example of how the Chinese Government helps their people and economy AND our Government does not.
So just think about what a Con Job Republicans and right-wing Media have been playing on American people, that on one hand they have been telling us "We need to move Jobs to China because it is cheaper there...", OTOH they have been telling us that "Government cannot do anything..." So let health care companies charge you what they want, let Oil companies charge you what they want, etc. and OTOH the reason it is Cheaper to build things in China is because China is a Communist Capitalist country where the Government, repeat the Government, runs many things from health care to energy on not-for-profit basis, thus resulting in things costing much less in China.
And here are some of the thing that China is doing different than US as a result of which they have a HUGE Surplus vs HUGE Deficits in US, etc. good economic news from China vs economic misery news from USA:
1- China does not have a Gargantuan Military budget.
That is: China's Military budget is about $50Bill which is proportion to the size of Chinese economy to the World economy to the World Military budget. Whereas US military budget is an astonishing $600Bill+, whereas US economy is only 15% of World economy now. This means for US Military budget to be in proportion to the size of the US economy to World economy to World Military budget, then US Military budget needs to be cut down by 85% to $90Bill per year. 2- Whether US has Military bases in 128 different countries, whereas US has Military bases in 10+ European countries and spending $50Bill of American Tax payers on these European bases only, China has ZERO military bases outside China. So what Military budget China has is all spend inside China whereas most of the US Military budget is spend in the bases that US has in 128+ countries. For more on how Gargantuan US Military budget is, refer here please.
2- China is not engaged in (unnecessary) Wars 10,000 Miles from its borders
as US is engaged in 2 Wars in middle east, for an astonishing 8 years and counting, in fact never ending Wars. Just imagine if China was engaged in 2 Wars in Central America, which is equivalent to US being engaged in 2 Wars in middle east, and as the result it had spent $2Trillon+ of its People money on these Wars, where do you think the Chinese surplus would be then? Of course it would have disappeared and it would have had a huge Deficit instead.
3- China has Universal Nationalized Health Care. Just like all European countries, Canada,
Japan, Australia, Israel, etc. China has Universal Nationalized Health Care, this means that Chinese businesses and people pay a small fraction of what American people and businesses pay for health care. This means that ZERO Chinese go bankrupt each year due to health care costs whereas in US 2Mill+ Americans go bankrupt each year due to health care costs. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_reform_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
4- Chinese Government is making enormous investments in Chinese people and cities.
This point is not as easily proven or appreciated as the other points listed above, but for example just take this example, whereas in US ZERO Miles of high-speed trains have been developed, 1000s of Miles of real high speed trains have been laid in China, connecting vast parts of China at 200 Km/Hour or faster, which by some estimates has added 20% to China's GDP growth over the last 10 years, enabling it to go from the Worlds 30th economy in 10 years to 3rd and soon to 2nd. More on this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China
5- Chinese products are not boycotted by most of the Moslem World due to US & Israeli War-mongering
That is most of the World and specially most of the Moslem World, about 1 Billion people, considers the US War in Iraq, Israeli war in Lebanon, Gaza, etc. and specially US support of these Wars to be criminal and wrong at best, and as a result they will NOT buy US made products, such as Autos, Planes, etc., IF competing products are available from Europe China, Japan, which are at least as good, which effective boycott China and Chinese businesses are not suffering from, for obvious reasons. After all think for yourself, IF you are one of the Billion Arabs/Moslems, whom by the way we send to about $800Bill of our money per year in form of Oil purchases, would you buy a US made Car, Plane, etc. given how wrong you find the US Occupation & killings in Iraq to be, or Israeli Occupation & killings in Palestine to be, or would you buy a German made car or a French made plane, or a Chinese made Ship, etc. when they are all pretty much priced the same and deliver the same if not better quality than their US counter parts?
etc. etc.
All of which points Republicans and the right-wing Media in US oppose, So China is yet another great proof as to what utter complete lunatics Republicans are.
Ask Democrats and the (right-wing) US Media why does China has a HUGE surplus and not us!
But lets also state these other facts:
1- Democrats too are pretty much failing to adopt the steps that Chinese have taken as listed above that has lead to them having huge Surpluses vs US having massive Deficits, that is US military budget has gone up under Democrats too, not as fast as Republicans, but it has gone up rather than being sharply reduced to the size of US economy to World economy and World military budget, Democrats too have failed to end the Wars in middle east, Democrats too have not proposed real Universal Nationalized Health Care, etc. etc.
2- How right-wing, what a lying machine, US Media is that it does not point to the above FACTS. I mean every day there are 100s of stories in US Media warning about the huge US Deficits, but not one of them does what I have done here, which is to look at countries such as China that are having huge Surpluses rather than massive Deficits and see what they are doing different. Because if they did so then they would have to face the fact that Republicans are lunatics, which means they are agents of Big Corporations (Big pharma, Big insurance, Big Military, Big banks, etc.) rather than being representative of American people and that too many Democrats are not too different than Republicans, and that is why all the steps that Chinese are taking leading to their Huge surpluses are not being taken in US, leading to massive Deficits in US. More on this here.
Republicrats* = A Democrat that is a Democrat in name but in fact they are as right-wing, which means as owned by Big corporations as Republicans are, as a result of which nothing will be done in the US Senate (the Millionaires Club) to reduce the ability of the Big corporations (Big pharma, Big insurance, Big Military, Big banks, etc.) from screwing the American middle class as much as they want.
Since the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949 and until the 1980s, almost all media in China were state-run. Independent media only began to emerge at the onset of economic reforms, although state-run media outlets such as Xinhua, CCTV, and People's Daily continue to hold significant market share. Independent media that operate within the PRC (excluding Hong Kong and Macao, which have separate media regulatory bodies) are no longer required to strictly follow journalistic guidelines set by the government. However, regulatory agencies, such as the General Administration of Press and Publication (GAPP) and the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television (SARFT), continue to set strict regulations on subjects considered taboo by the government, including but not limited to the legitimacy of the Communist Party, government policies in Tibet and Xinjiang, pornography, and the banned spiritual group Falun Gong[citation needed].
The negative things that you are saying about China are true.
But the point of this article is that Wall Street (aka Republican masters) have moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China even under the bad facts that you have written about, even though that China is the ULTIMATE example of Big Government since 72% of Chinese economy is operated on Socialized basis.
Reporters Without Borders consistently ranks China very poorly on media freedoms in their annual releases of the Press Freedom Index, calling the Chinese government as having "the sorry distinction of leading the world in repression of the Internet".[3]
So China is ULTIMATE proof of how wrong Republicans and the right-wingers in US are given the FACT that China is a Communist Capitalist country with Chinese Government NOT just running health care, etc. as Europeans do, on Socialized basis, but in China also the Top banks, Top Energy companies, etc. are all run by Chinese Government on Socialized basis.
So China is ULTIMATE proof that if you want NO Debt, if you want HUGE Surpluses rather than HUGE Deficits as US has, then:
1- you operate key industries on Socialized basis
2- you do not engage in Wars 10,000K from your country, as US does in one War after another War, such as Afghan and Iraq War at cost of $3-Trillion to date whereas China has spent ZERO at the same time on Wars
3- you do not have a Gargantuan Military given that China has Military budget that is almost 1/10th of US Military budget, and most importantly what Military budget China has are ALL spent inside China given the FACT that China has ZERO bases outside China vs US having Military bases in astonishing 128+ countries
Do you really want to live like they do? There are no protections for workers, there are no protections for citizens regarding polution etc etc etc. The main reason they have such huge surpluses is cheap labor and virtually zero regulation for business practices.
Personal liberty is virtually non-existent....only one child allowed, and often if that one child is a female, it is aborted and another attempt is made for a male child.
As China moves into the 21st century, they will have to provide protections for workers, will have to regulate polution controls and will move towards the American model. In many ways, this is unfortunate, since corruption will no doubt also increase.
We could help ourselves tremendously by eliminating the ability of large business to influence congress and govt in general.
I dont see this happening for the simple reason that (in the legislator's eyes) this would be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs (for them).
I agree with the above statement regarding wars...I really wish we would "save" them for absolute need.
1st, It is Republicans (aka Wall Street gang & Big corporations & right-wing Media) that LOVE China as they have invested Trillions of Dollars and thus moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China. So again it is Republicans, repeat Republicans and the right-wing Media, that LOVE China for they have been telling us for last many years as to how wonderful China is and that China has 9% growth and grown from Worlds 20th economy to the 3rd and thus why we need to move Millions of Jobs from US to China.
2nd, China has low cost of manufacturing because they operate key industries from health care, to college education, etc. on Socialized basis. Chinese Government energy on Socialized basis to the point that they subsidize gas to be at most $1.5 per Gallon. So the same Socialized services that Republicans (aka Wall Street gang) hate for Americans they LOVE it in China.
In reply:
You are braindead...show me one quote where repubs support moving jobs overseas. Jobs are moving overseas due to the higher operating costs limiting competition here in the US. Corporations are making the moves to survive. Any manufacturing that hopes to compete internationally has had no choice but to move.
2nd: The lost cost of manufacturing is simple economics: low pay, no govt controls/regulations regarding disposing of waste materials etc etc etc. Has nothing to do with socialized health, or at best, very little.
Does Mexico have universal health care? If not, then perhaps you should explain why their costs are so low...you are merely attributing low operating costs to socialization cause that fits your agenda.
Perhaps you should explain why the EU is up to its neck in Debt even though they socialized health care? Given your logic, they should be in pretty good shape...
Yes, Europe is in a GREAT shape compared to US due to many more Socialized services that they have as you can see from:
1- Euro that is MUCH MORE VALUABLE than US Dollar. Given the FACT that Euro since its introduction in year 2000 at 1 to 1 to US Dollar has GAINED a MIGHTY, repeat for you Republican lunatics, has GAINED a MIGHTY 35% against US Dollar.
2- US Auto makers went bankrupt, laying off 10s of 1000s of people, while European Auto makers did not.
Moreover all this fear-mogering by rightwing Media in US over debt is mainly non-sense, since Debt is KEY part of Capitalisim and in fact very good IF it is put into good use.
So the Debt that Europeans have is MAINLY very good Debt since it is put into good use, it is used to invest in Eurropean people and cities from providing them with FREE health care for Taxes they pay, to providing them with FREE COllege education for Taxes they pay to giving them modern Transporation systems such as High speed Trains in Germany, France as a result of which public transporation they depend much less on polluting Middle Eastern Oil since these are electric powered.
However most of US Debt is bad debt since it is wasted on unnecessary Wars and a Gargantuan Military. Which FACTS you can instantly see proven by Euro being MUCH MORE valuable than US Dollar which means the World is telling you with their money that they much rather keep their money in Europe because European economies are going to do much better than US because Europeans are investing their Debt & Taxes much more in their people.
Real_news u are 100% on target, but NO amount of facts and logic can stop the Republican from their Con Job on American people, because again they are engaged in a Con Job and thus not care for facts.
To be exact Repunlicans & right-wing Media are all of a sudden worried about Deficits. But one of the KEY ways you reduce Deficits is by growing the economy which would result in MORE Tax revenues and thus LESS Debts and Deficits, which means MORE Spending and not less.
Question is where that MORE Spending should come from:
More Taxes
or
More Debt
So debt by itself is not bad, only if you waste it on unnecessary Wars (ie Iraq War at cost of $3-Trillion) then debt is bad. Otherwise debt is one of the 2 KEY means by which Government finances things.
For example if we borrow $1-Trillion to cure cancer which will save $100-Trillion over the next 100 years, then that is NOT bad debt but great debt.
So this all of a sudden fetish that Republican lunatics and right-wing Media have over Debt is the continuation of the Con Job that they have been running on American people.
You freaking moron are you not able to read or obtain facts on your own. For
you said:
"Since you love the communist chinese government so much, why not just move there?"
But the FACT is as stated in this article, it is the Republican party, that is Wall Street gang and the Big corporations, aka Big Monmey & Rich that control the Republican party, that LOVES China as a result of which:
"They have invested Trillions of Dollars and thus moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China"
That is the WHOLE point of the post, that is While the Republican bosses LOVE China as per having moved "10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China" they sold American people this amazing LIE from that buffoon Reagan onward to now that:
"Government is the problem not the solution..."
While China is the Ultimate example of BIG Government as per the FACT that China is a Communist/Capitalist country where they operate most TOP Banks and Energy companies, etc. on Nationalized basis beside health care, etc.
First: since you start your reply off with a personal attack, it indicates an extreme lack of reasoning ability on your part.
Second: Major factors the article fails to mention, which have a huge impact on their ability to sell cheaply on the international market, are low pay, almost non-existent govt regulatory agencies (such as EPA, OSHA etc), and a currency which is held (by the govt) at unreasonably low levels (compared to other currencies, which float according to economic market forces). All these contribute to a much lower operating costs for companies doing business there, and give the Chinese the ability to market product on the international market at low prices, driving higher priced competitors out of business. Why do you think there is a rush to move business to China, even though the govt is an extreme hassle to deal with?
You freaking moron, sorry but you have said one moronic thing after another.
China has all the Regulatory bodies that we have and MORE, since China is a Communist Capitalist country which means much more Government control of the economy than US.
So it is true that "things can be produced cheaper in China".
But then they (Republicans & Wall Street gang) did not tell you, or used their all powerful brain washing right-wing Media to prevent you from knowing, that the reason that "things can be produced cheaper in China..." is because Chinese get health care, college education, etc. for VIRTUALLY FREE plus Gas, Food, etc. subsidized by the Chinese Government because all these and many other things in China are run by the Chinese Government on Socialized basis.
So the same "Socialized.." services that they hate for you, for American people, because it would drastically cut the money they can make off your back from these services, such as health care, they love these same Socialized services in China because then it allows them to make more money by having these goods produced in China because Chinese people can work at much lower cost than Americans since again so much of every day life in China from health care to college education, etc. are VIRTUALLY FREE, free for the Taxes that they pay, because they are operated on Socialized services.
Wrong kimosabi, you obviously have never done business there nor do you know jack squat about it.
There are no controls over the disposal of waste.
There are no controls over the use of dangerous chemicals in manufacturing.
There is nothing comparable to OSHA there.
There is absolutely nothing like the EPA there.
The controls that exist are strange in the eyes of westerners, and there is a "dance" that has to be performed (as well as cash exchanged) in order to bring a business in to China from outside. But that has nothing to do with protecting workers, protecting the environment or protecting consumers.
You are blowing manure out your butt, and display an apalling lack of knowledge and yet claiming some kind of specialized knowledge. BS
I was in China for 5 years, helping one of our Corporations establish itself there. Tons of red tape and negotiations, but absolutely none of it envolved protections for workers, environment or consumers. They (the govt) could care less about them.
When you start your rant off with "You freaking moron" you have already lost the debate. You present yourself as emotionally unstable as well as not having a solid base from which to argue, hence the resortment to insults. You hope that people wont continue the debate. If you want to actually have a civil debate where facts, data and logic prevail, then get off the emotionalisitic bullshit.
You fail.
In his speech before the American Society of Newspaper Editors on April 16, 1953,
President Dwight D. Eisenhower said:
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientistsÂ, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threateninÂg war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.â€?
China spent 1.5 billion dollars constructeÂd the world’s longest cross-sea bridge and an undersea tunnel linking three cities-QinÂgdao, Huangdao and Hongdao to improve area transportaÂtion and to promote economic developmenÂts.
US spent 4 trillion dollars to fight two wars of choice, laid waste to these impoverishÂed countries, left 225,000 dead, both civilians and soldiers. At the same time, bankrupted our economy.
Thanks. What a cool site with many truth revealing articles.
I have few points to highlight here as summarized from various sources in the vast net:
"...the U.S. is now spending $1 trillion annually on military expenses, which includes the costs to maintain over 700 military bases in 135 countries around the world. There is no way that we can continue on with our overseas military presence without seeing hyperinflation..."
"“Cleary there’s no need from the point of view of self defense for the US to have military installations all over the world. It’s really part of maintaining a far flung global empire, and at the heart of the empire and corporate and banking interests and elites that the US military is defending. Each place that the United States has a military base, the US has political power, economic power, and it’s a matter of coercion,� said Brian Becker of the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition."
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No offense, but the first link fails with the very first paragraph: "The United States boats hundreds of military bases around the world, perhaps even thousands. But, no one knows for sure because even the Pentagon does not bother to keep track."
LOL they cannot spell, or bother to spellcheck apparently, since the 4th word should be "boasts"...
Secondly, are they serious that the Pentagon doesnt know how many military bases they have around the world? LOL
Whatever value exists in this linked article is lost totally in the very first paragraph....crediblity zero.
So if the newest republican plan to kick another 44 million people out of the healthcare system tortures and kills more people than Bin Laden did, can we please send the CIA to execute them ?
Yes, you really have to the FACE the FACT that Republicans are the real ENEMY of the American people and not the pathetic nothing Alqaeda/Osama. I mean not these Son of the Bitches have prevented Americans for decades from having Universal Nationalized Health Care, something that they have in ALL European countries, Canada, in fact in all developed nation, but they are still opposing it and VAST part of US Media are 100% on this Con Job, on this crime along with the Republican.
The point you are missing is that China has increased their standard of living for their citizens by allowing less government intervention. This new model is based on capitalism and lastly most people do not understand how the US dollar was the contributing factor in increasing the standard of living in China and for that matter all countries that have become exporters. This has caused the US most of the problems we are facing today, like large deficits, large trade imbalances, lack of jobs.
You are missing the point.
What China demonstrates, as have the European economies, is that the correct economic model is a combination of:
1- Government running essential services such as Health Care
2- Government not having a Gargantuan Military, which means not wasting the peoples money on a Gargantuan Military
3- Government not wasting peoples money on unnecessary Wars. ZERO Wars China engaged in vs 3 Wars for US at the cost of $3-Trillions to date,
etc.
So what China has proven, as again have many European economies which have very Big Government such as Norway with near FULL Employment and Surpluses rather than Huge Deficits in US, is that the Socialist/Capitalist model is the right model and the Republicans have been engaged in an Ultimate Con job on American people by having Sold this non-sense to the American people that:
"Government is the problem not the solutions..."
Where as the Chinese, etc. have shown: "Government is ONE Of the KEY Solutions..."
This idiot keeps referring to China as example of a country that has Money and US as a country "that is Broke.." being such a lying machine NOT to state That is if "we are broke.." why do we have 200,000+ troops in Europe? 50,00 troops in South Korea? We are broke because of unnecessarÂy Wars that RepublicanÂs lunatics have engaged us in. Just look at China.