Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care (NHS) is the only way to operate the heath care of a country in todays modern World. And that is why ALL European countries, Canada, Japan, Australia, Israel, in fact ALL, repeat ALL major parties in the World are 100% for their NHS. In fact only USA and some failed states such as Sudan, Somalia, etc. do not have NHS.

In case you think by ALL major parties we are referring to the Liberal parties, NO, the Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. all are 100% for their NHS. So why ALL Conservative parties, repeat Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Japan, etc. are 100% for their NHS? Because it SAVES 50% on cost of health care while giving ALL the People health care! In case you missed that critical point: NHS, which means Socialized health care for all, means spending much less, not more, but MUCH LESS on health care than what US spends health care while all their people have health care as a right for the Taxes that they pay.

So just think the Con Job that Republicans and Republic-rats and the US Media have been running on American people that we pretty much pay the same Taxes as for example a German, Canadian, etc. but whereas they get TOTAL free health care for this Tax we Americans get ZERO health care for same Taxes!

So how NHS save 50% on cost of health care while give health care to ALL? The answer is that in countries that have NHS, health care is operated on not-for-profit basis and most importantly people involved are not able to make more than 250K per year and health care companies pay NO 100s of Billions in dividends to their Wall Street. So for example whereas current Governor of Florida made $72-Million from health care, in countries with socialized health care, he would have made NO such Millions. Or whereas CEO of United health care made $124Million, he would have made a maximum of about $250K in countries with NHS and thus the resulting $123,750,000 in saving would have gone into the socialized health care system, which means the people.


So what is Universal Nationalized Health Care?

Universal Nationalized Health Care (aka NHS) can range from single payer health care as it is in UK which means everyone gets the same health care for FREE, FREE for the Medicare Taxes that people are obligated to pay all their lives, to how it is operated in France, Germany, Switzerland etc. where Government tightly regulates how much private insurance companies can charge plus offers a form of a Public health insurance and thus ensures that ALL the people have health care. So in general NHS means:

1- If you are employed you have to pay a portion of your income as Taxes to the National health care system, plus your employer will generally pay an equal amount as well into the same fund, just as we pay in USA Medicare Taxes and the employer pays a matching amount. And for these Taxes you get total FREE health care. So bottom line, in countries with NHS, if you work then you have health care already paid for from your Taxes, no natter what your salary is. Now contrast this to USA where for example in Rick Perry's state of Texas an astonishing 73% of WORKING PEOPLE have no health care.

2- If you are laid off from a Job then you get health care for free for the duration of time that you are unemployed.

3- If you are self employed you can buy health care at about $200 per month for you and your family.

4- If you are unable to pay for health insurance, then the Government will pay it for you.

And lets also state a very important fact, after you pay for your health insurance via one of the above steps then you do not pay the rip-off deductibles and cop-pays that exists in US which can add TENS of 1000s of Dollars to cost of a health care PER YEAR for an American family. To be exact in some countries like Germany you pay a small deductible which is capped by law at 500 Euros per year.

But what all the NHS systems have in common, whether single payer as in UK, Israel, etc. or based on combination of private health insurance and Government health insurance as in France, Germany, etc. are the following KEY points:

1- Every citizen of the country, whether poor or rich, employed or unemployed, gets health care. But in particular if you are working, then you ABSOLUTELY get health care for the Medicare Taxes that you pay. Contrast this with US that 90% of small businesses do not provide their employee health care!

2- Health care is generally operated on a not for profit basis. As a result of which VERY KEY POINT health care is taking about 9% of the GDP in countries that have NHS, which again is ALL developed nations, whereas in US with no NHS, where an astonishing 50Mill+ have NO health care, health care is taking a DEFICIT BUSTING 18% of GDP


Why is European, Canadian, etc. Universal Nationalized Health Care far superior to US for profit health care?

1- In countries that have NHS, every citizen gets health care, NO ONE is denied health care, whereas in US 50Mill Americans do not have health care.(1)

2- In countries that have NHS, you do not loose your health care for yourself or your family when you loose your Job, whereas in US within months of loosing your Job you will loose your health care coverage unless you pay nearly 100% of your unemployment benefits to buy health care through what is called COBRA, and even that runs out in a short time. And lets also state here that you need your health care coverage in particular after you loose your Job due
to all the stress that loosing a Job can have on a person and family.

3- In countries that have NHS, NO ONE is denied health care because they have a pre-existing condition, which astoundingly is the case in US resulting in at least 50,000 Americans dying each year due to this truly EVIL fact alone, more on this here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58G6W520090918
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/september/harvard_study_finds_.php

4- In Europe, Canada, etc. countries that have NHS, NOT ONE person or family is going bankrupt each year due to health care costs whereas in US 2Mill+ people go bankrupt each year due to health care costs.(2)

5- But perhaps the ultimate reason why NHS is vastly superior for the country than the US style health care system is that in the countries that have NHS, health care is taking on average 9% of the GDP whereas in US with for profit health care, health care is taking a DEFICIT BUSTING 18% of the GDP. And that is why the Conservative parties in Canada, Germany, Israel, UK, that is Margaret Thatchers party, you know Ronald Reagan's favorite politician & party, are 100% for their NHS.(3) Which point further proves that if Republicans in US were real Conservatives, really cared about reducing deficits, then they would be for NHS, and again that is why Conservative parties in UK, Germany, Canada, etc. are all for their NHS. Here is a good visual chart of this fact:
http://www.visualeconomics.com/healthcare-costs-around-the-world_2010-03-01/
&
http://www.kff.org/insurance/snapshot/chcm010307oth.cfm

Last desperate arguments by Republicans and right-wing Media in US

Now when you list the above facts as to how vastly better for the society and the country NHS is compared to US for profit health care, then Republicans and the right-wing Media in US will state that:
"Yes, but our health care results are much better than Europeans, Canadian, etc."
Which statement is totally false, as US health care results rank well below the Europeans, Canadians, etc. developed nation and instead they rank with some of the poorest 3rd World countries, which you can see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

And once you present the above fact, that in fact US is ranked with some of the poorest 3rd World countries in health care results, which of course would be the case when 50Mill Americans have NO health care, or you loose your health care when you loose your Job, or that even most Americans that do have health insurance do not dare to go for health coverage due to exorbitant deductibles, co-pays, etc. rip off, then Republicans and our right-wing Media as the last desperate attempt in arguing against NHS will state the following total LIES:
1- Europeans or Canadians are coming to US for their health care needs
2- Europeans or Canadians are dying waiting in line to get health care
etc. utter lie and non-sense

Now you want to know why the above are utter lies and non-sense, it is because:
1- You will find NOT ONE, not even ONE, Canadian or European party or media organization saying that lets replace our Universal Nationalized Health Care with US style for profit health care.
2- You will not see or read ONE US Media say the above non-sense in their European or Canadian versions, which is the ultimate irrefutable proof as to the above statements being total lies - more about this here.

Another desperate argument: US has more discoveries in Medicine that countries with Nationalized Health

Another desperate argument that Republican lunatics and the right-wing Media make against NHS is to say something like "What medical advancement your favored Nationalized Health Care Systems have discovered in the last 20 year....?" Which again shows how devoid of facts these people are since in fact countries with NHS have been behind many more discoveries in Medicine than US has been which you can simply see from countries with NHS having been awarded almost 2 Times as many Nobel prizes in Medicine than those with the US health care system having been awarded, which you can see detailed here:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_nob_pri_lau-people-nobel-prize-laureates

And in fact most of the US Noble prize winners in Medicine where from countries that have NHS, whom were offered 10s of Millions of Dollars, by Big Pharma in US, to come to US to finish their work in US, which money they could not be offered under their NHS but could under US for profit health care system. That is these scientists from European countries would have finished their work in their own countries as many of their counter parts have, but of course not every person will reject the allure of being offered 10s of Millions of Dollars for moving from country X to US.

So why does US still doesn't have Universal Nationalized Health Care?

So given how vastly better for the people, for (small) businesses, the country, and thus the Government, NHS is compared to US style for profit health care, as listed above and as absolutely evident by the FACT that ALL developed nations in the World have one form or another of NHS, then why is it that US still does not have NHS?

How is it that Republicans can be such utter lunatics to call NHS, to be:
"Socialism..."
"Government take over of health care..."
etc. meaningless words and sound bytes?
And how is that vast parts of US Media, aka right-wing Media, that is Talkradio, Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Forbes, CNN, etc. etc., repeat the above non-sense along with the Republicans?

The answer should be rather obvious. It is because under Universal Nationalized Health Care system, salaries of health care providers are set by the Government and health care is provided free of profits and share prices and no top brass of health care companies is paid $20Mill per year and flies in $50Mill private jets, etc. and instead they would be paid a salary in-line with the top brass of the Military, which means 200 to 300K per year, which is of course still a very good salary, since 95% of Americans are paid less than $200K per year. As a result of which we would SAVE the US Government, which ultimately means the American people (Tax payer), $1Trillion per year in health care costs, again as EVIDENT by the FACT that in every country that has Universal Nationalized Health Care, health care on average is taking about 9% of GDP vs 18% of GDP for health care in US.

So the Super rich and Big corporations (Big Pharma, Big Insurance) who stand to loose $1-Trillion per year by operating health care on a Universal Nationalized basis, are spending 10s of Billions of Dollars per year to directly or indirectly finance such lying slime bags as Limbaugh, Beck, Hannety, Fix news, Wall Street Journal, CNBC, etc., in fact 99% of US Media, to brain wash the (uneducated) American people, to not be aware of how much vastly superior for the People and the Government NHS is.

After all keep in mind, that even if Big Pharma, Big Insurance spends 10s of Billion of Dollars per year to LIE and LIE about NHS, even if they spend 100 Billion Dollar per year to brain wash vast segments of Americans to be against NHS by getting them to believe their non-sense and lies, they will still be more than $900Bill per year ahead, which is the cost savings that NHS will produce less the $100Billion they spend to fund their agents such as Talkradio, Fix news, Wall Street Journal, CNBC, etc. to brain wash the uneducated people about what NHS is and why it is vastly better than the current health care system that is putting an extra $1-Trillion in their pockets per year on the back of the American people.

So that is why US is the ONLY country in the so called developed World that does not have , that is why such large segments of Americans have become utter complete lunatics (aka Republicans), because the Super rich and Big corporations (Big Pharma, Big Insurance) who are making an EXTRA $1-Trillion per year from current for profit health care in US, are spending $100Bill of that money per year, to finance vast segments of US Media, and countless other organizations, to lie and lie to American people, to brain wash them to act against their own self interest by being against NHS, by calling Universal Nationalized Health Care to be "Socialism...", which again would be the same as calling the US Military to be "Socialism..." since a Country's National Health Care and a Country's Military are operated the same way.

For example note that the pay package of United health care CEO was $1.2Billion, here:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38643836?slide=2

Final Words

1- Ultimately the reason to have NHS is that US businesses (and thus people) cannot complete in today's Global economy against Europeans, Chinese, Japanese, etc. companies whose counties ALL have NHS as a result of which they pay ZERO to very little for health care on top of the Taxes that they pay whereas US companies (people) have to pay on average $10,000 per person per year for health care (premiums, plus deductibles, plus co-pays, etc.) on top of the Taxes that we pay which Taxes are on par with the Taxes that Europeans pay for someone making less than $100K per year. A very good example of which point is that while US Auto makers went bankrupt, European Auto makers did NOT, because US Auto makers were under 10s of Billions of Dollars of health care obligation payments to their current and past employees whereas the health care obligations of German Auto makers were/are nearly ZERO since they have NHS in Germany - more about this here.

2- If US lived in a planet by itself, or lived in a planet where other countries were Governed by Republican lunatics and a right-wing (LYING) Media as a result of which these countries did not have NHS, then US could get away with not having NHS, but given that ALL other developed nations have Universal Nationalized health care, then US must either adopt Universal Nationalized health care or watch its economy to go down and down the toilet compared to other developed nations which is exactly what has been happening as evident by how much better European economies are doing compared to US economy as out-lined above which can be summarized by how much more valuable Euro is vs US Dollar.

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(1) About 50Mill Americans having NO health coverage
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/national/article/census_uninsured_rises_to_46.3_million/45183/

(2) 1Mill+ people go bankrupt each year due to health care costs while ZERO Europeans or Canadians do for same reason
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/05/bankruptcy.medical.bills/

(3) Margaret Thatchers Conservative party is 100% for their Universal nationalized single payer health care
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Health.aspx

(4) Great FAQ about Universal single payer health care by Physicians for a National Health Program
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq

(5) Health care system in US is so EVIL that it literally KILLs at least 50,000 Americans per year by denying them care
http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=35948

(6) National Health care means 50% SAVING in cost of health care while every one gets health care - related proofs:
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jun2007/gb20070613_921562.htm

(7) A good review of health care in many different countries:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91972152

(8) The Case For Single Payer, Universal Health Care For The United States
http://cthealth.server101.com/the_case_for_universal_health_care_in_the_united_states.htm

(9) Comparing U.S. Healthcare Spending with Other OECD Countries
http://seekingalpha.com/article/146992-comparing-u-s-healthcare-spending-with-other-oecd-countries

(10) Multi Million Dollar compensations of Big Health Care CEOS:
http://sickforprofit.com/ceos/
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/26/business/la-fi-insurer-executive-pay-20110526
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2010/11/16/health-care-ceos-bring-home-the-bacon/

(11) United Health CEO earned $124.8 million in 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnitedHealth_Group

(12) Further evidence that health care reform passed by Obama Admin is a joke
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/affordable-health-care_n_1223230.html

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By Guest:   factsRus        2011-11-11 Hey did u see this? US Employer Health Insurance Hits New Low http://www.cnbc.com/id/45255516 So this is another gr8 reminder as to what a JOKE Obama Admins health care reform was/is, that a year+ after its passage less Americans have health insurance than before it, rather than 100% having it, as they do in ALL European countries, Canada, in fact in all developed nations with Universal Nationalized health care (NHS). And what utter complete lunatics Republicans are to be totally against NHS and how most of US Media is on this attack against American people for they repeat the same psycho talk of the Republicans in opposing NHS. Reply
By Guest:   ultimate_fighter        2011-09-13 Hey, did you read that a Federal Judge Strikes Down Key Health Care Law Provision. Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/13/individual-mandate-ruling_n_960113.html What do you think about that? Reply By Member: UHC        2011-09-13 1st, this shows how the US Government from top to bottom is full of hypocrites, for how is that this Judge can say that Congress cannot require people to buy health insurance but congress can require us to pay Taxes! 2nd, why did Obama Admin pass this bill via having people buy health insurance and not just have added a small Tax? 3rd, actually NO additional Taxes would be needed, set aside buying health insurance extra, if Obama Admin had passed Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care (NHS), which means from the Medicare Taxes that we ALREADY pay, All Americans would receive health care for life. So just think about that, that is We Americans just like Europeans, Canadians, etc. pay Medicare Taxes, but whereas they get TOTAL health care for free for these Medicare Taxes we get absolutely NOTHING for the Medicare Taxes that we pay, that is until we turn 65! How is it that Republicans and Democrats have been able to get away with this Ultimate Con Job on us? That is they have us pay Medicare Taxes, and on top of that we have to pay 10s of 1000s of Dollars per Year for health insurance, for a family of 4, whereas Europeans, Canadians, etc. pay about the same 15% of their gross income for Medicare Taxes, but they get TOTAL health care for free for life for these Medicare Taxes that they pay because they operate health care on Socialized basis. And the Son of Bitch Republicans and the right-wing Media that they control, have the NO SHAME, to run around saying that the paltry Medicare that Americans get after the age of 65 only, is running out of money, whereas people from the rest of the developed World get total health care for life for free for the Medicare Taxes that they pay and their Medicare is not running out of money because they operate health care on not-for profit Socialized basis, what Republican Son of Bitch and the right-wing Media that they control oppose for Americans. Reply By Guest:   Guest        2011-09-15 We're sort-of on the same page here, but I want to make a few friendly remarks. 1. They are not hypocrites (at least in this case, although I also hate politicians). They essentially ratified the constitution to allow for income taxes. In order to have the authority to do the same for health care, they would have to do the same thing. Right now, they aren't allowed to force people to buy insurance. 2. No idea. I'm guessing it's because they would have lost a few Republican votes if this was viewed as another tax in the bill. 3. I don't agree with NHS, but our health care and insurance system definitely needs reformed. The facts definitely say that we don't get better service for all the extra money we pay, so somethings gotta give. If there are any ways to reform the system without government intervention I'm all ears. Reply By Member: UHC        2011-10-28 The point is that money is money, whether you call it Taxes or Maxes, as long as we have to pay the on mandatory basis, they are the same thing. Which begs the question why did Obama Admin make the payment for health care to be a mandatory purchase rather than call it Taxes which then according to constitution is fine. And directly to your point "NO Republicans, ZERO Republicans, voted for this measure anyway." But actually the above question is moot by the fact of what we need is not this joke of a health care reform that Obama Admin passed which forces us to buy health care from same bankrupting health insurance companies, but what we need is Universal Nationalized Health Care where health care is then paid from Medicare Taxes that we ALREADY pay. And the fact that you do not agree with NHS just proves what lunatic you are since the ENTIRE developed World has had NHS, in one form or another, for years and they 100% agree with it, because it gives health care to all which is an essential need of a society while health care costing 50% less, repeat LESS, than what it costs in US. Reply
By Guest:   Guest        2011-08-25 Do you even read the news? Just because things don't appear on your liberal blogs doesn't mean that they don't happen. I have a question for you all. I have a few friends in the military and they absolutely hate their health insurance plan - administered by our wonderful Government. In fact, they hate it so much that they've opted to use private insurance because their Government-run plan is so poorly managed, doctor visits must be schedule too far in advance, and the entire program is inefficient. If our Government can't properly run a health insurance program for this percent of Americans, what makes you think they can do it for the entire country? I know I've mentioned this before, but you all didn't seem to listen. I'm all for healthcare reform. The private industry is out of control in this area, but I've yet to see any evidence that OUR Government (I don't care about Europe) can do a better job. Reply By Member: UHC        2011-08-26 Please 1st spare us with the worthless reference to a "friend of yours.." Since I have a friend who has won the lottery in US but that does not mean that everyone will win the lottery in US. Now here are the ABSOLUTE facts in response to your typical Republican lunatic con Job that "Government is the problem not the solution..." or put as you have put it: "I've yet to see any evidence that OUR Government (I don't care about Europe)" 1st, it is not just Europe that has Government run health care, so does EVERY other developed nation 2nd, are you saying that Americans are somehow a sub-species compared to Europeans, Canadians, Australians, etc. whom all have Government run Universal Nationalized health care (aka NHS), that is their Governments can run their health care and ours cannot! Really! Is there any limit to insane talking of you people! 3rd, to the extent that our Government run services are inferior to that of the Europeans, Canadians, etc. developed Nations is that Republicans, aka Big corporate money behind them, have done all they can to make sure what Government services we have is either under-funded or is run with the wrong approach thus ensuring its failure or continuous problems, after all Republicans as agents of Wall Street and Big corps are charged with running this ultimate Scam on American people that is the Same Government that they love in running the Military, the Worlds LARGEST Socialized service, all of a sudden when it comes to providing services to American people it is "the problem not the solution..." So take for example NHS and Medicare in US, by having Government run NHS, as they have in Europe, Canada, etc. for the Medicare Taxes that we already pay, repeat WE ALREADY PAY, we can have total health care for all American people which means health care for all for free, free for Medicare Taxes that we already pay. That is how the Government can run health care better than for profit Wall Street backed companies. Reply By Guest:   Guest        2011-08-26 We are not every other government, that's the point. And yes, I'm saying that or Government is not capable of putting together a successful health plan. What more do you want me to say? They simply can't do it. Also, do you remember that "Wall Street" contributed more to the democrats in the 2008 election? But I thought you said that it's the republicans that act as agents of Wall Street? Are you wrong? Reply By Member: UHC        2011-08-26 "We are not every other government" is not a point. It is psycho talk of the extreme lunatic level. We are human being like people in Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc. and we need health care just like they do and the whole developed World has shown for decades that the only way to operate the health care of a county is on Government run Socialized basis. And about the Democrats, are you totally blind or are not able to read! We have said in this article and many other articles that Obama Dems are ALMOST as corrupted, as owned by the "Wall Street", as Republicans are. That is why it is 2011 and US Still does not have something as essential and cost SAVING as NHS. That is why Obama passed a total joke of a health care reform that is not at all Government run Socialized health care which is the only way to operate health care of a country. The only good thing that can be said about Obama Dems is that they at least talked about having Universal health care, and Republican are such lunatics, such enemy of the nation, like yourself, to actually oppose NHS! Reply By Guest:   Clearhead        2011-11-14 Dear Un-Hinged Crackpot (UHC) I've often wondered where the term 'lunatic' originated, and now I see that it must have been born right here on the good ol' "Real News Post", as it seems to be a veritable mantra for people such as you. It's probably a term of associational recognition judging by the calibre of intellect demonstrated in a lot of these posts. At any rate, the following suggestions are made for your benefit: (1) Go out into the woods somewhere and blow off about fifteen magatons of steam and hot air, then return when you are sufficiently calmed down to articulate intelligently and politely. (2) Before you attempt to start communicating with American freedom loving citizens, STUDY the myriad of available and verifiable facts particularly regarding America and its founding principles, (this may prepare you for your conversational readiness with the rest of us. And (3) Try your best to control your temper, as it shows glaringly through the words of your posts, and NONE of us pay much attention to the ravings of a MADman. Reply
By Guest:   Texan        2011-06-07 You Socialist Liberals are real scum and your liberal Socialist beliefs such as Universal nationalized health care will soon go down with that Socialist president Obama down the flame. Reply By Member: World        2011-06-07 Texan , to say you Republicans are lunatics, the real ENEMY of American people, is really putting mildly. For the position I have stated about Universal nationalized health care (NHS) are the positions of the Conservative parties, repeat Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. here is Margaret Thatchers Conservative party from UK: http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Health.aspx And quoting from it: "Over three years ago David Cameron spelled out his priorities in three letters – NHS. As the party of the NHS, we will never change the idea at the heart of our NHS – that healthcare in this country is free at the point of use and available to everyone based on need, not ability to pay." So you have to face the fact of how right-wing Obama/Dems are given that they are to the far right of the Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, etc., since they did not even propose an NHS and instead passed a Joke of a health care reform that is neither Universal nor Nationalized, and thus what utter complete Lunatics you Republicans are to be to the far right of the Democrats. More: http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=35602 Reply
By Member: Reporter        2011-03-09 Regarding this excellent FACT filled article, consider that today news came out that: "HCA, the biggest U.S. for-profit hospital chain, looks likely to be priced Wednesday evening at the top end of its $27-30 range", here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/41989551/comid/1/cache/620#comments_top Having publicly traded for profit Hospitals is WHY USA such a screwed up Country now. It is why health care is taking a DEFICIT BUSTING 18% of the GDP in USA while 50Mill+ Americans do not have health care, it is why 2Mill+ Americans go bankrupt each year due to health care costs, it is why Big pharma, Big insurance is able to spend 10s of Billions of Dollars per year to oppose Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care which would cut their rake from health care by $750Bill per year while giving ALL Americans health care for Taxes we already pay. It is why Republicans as agents of Big pharma, Big insurance oppose Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care since that would mean SAVING of $750Bill per year for American people and businesses, $750Bill per year less for their real bosses. Reply By Guest:   Guest        2011-08-25 I think the real reason that this country is so screwed up now is because of poor people. I would say that we should kick them out, but then who will mow my grass? Hopefully, the liberals. Don't forget to rake up after yourself. Reply
By Member: Real_News        2010-09-29 This article is just one more example of what a right-wing LYING machine US Media is, that is it says: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/29/AR2010092903768.html?hpid=topnews "Obama stood patiently as one woman described, at length, her fears that the U.S. health-care system will soon resemble that of Great Britain." Are you kidding us. Health care system in GB is FAR BETTER than in US for the people and Government, since people in GB get health care for FREE while health care costs GB Gov & businesses half of what health care costs in US and in every metric GB is ranked way above US in health care. WOW. What a brain washing machine US Media is. Reply
By Member: Sarah        2010-02-07 WOW, this is the best, most complete, report that I have read on why Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care is the only way to operate health care. You know when you say the things that you have said here, Republicans say: 1- "See, life would be so much easier if the Government just provided this for free, right?" ANSWER to this non-sense: Not for free, but for the TAXES THAT WE PAY. Or do you Republican loonies consider the about 40% of our income that we pay in various Taxes to be FREE?? So just like a British person, Israeli person, French person, that gets health care for free, well for the Taxes that they pay, we should be getting free health care too, again free for the Taxes that we pay, otherwise how can we, our companies, compete against European, Chinese, Japanese, etc. companies. They cannot. and that is why most US auto makers went bankrupt not ONE German or Japanese auto maker went bankrupt. When are these facts going to sink in the skull of you Republican loooones? STOP listening to Fixed news and other lying media sources, they are paid by big pharma and big health care to have you say such non-sense as ""See, life would be so much easier if the Government just provided this for free, right?" rather than thinking for YOURSELF as to the FACTS that I have listed above in response to this non-sense. 2- "The Brits and French pay a whole lot more than 40%. Remember, they have VAT on top of income taxes." ANSWER: 1st, No, Brits and French do not pay a whole lot more Taxes than us considering that we too pay sales Taxes which on avg are 8% AND that we also pay property Taxes which on avg are 1% of the value of our houses, that Brits and French pay next to nothing for, which makes total Taxes that a typical Americans pay with $75K annual salary and a $500K valued house to be more than what a Brit or French pays. 2nd, even if paid a tiny little less Tax than them that would be next to nothing given that they pay almost zero for health care costs when we have to pay an astonishing $2K per month for health care costs, for a family of 4 including deductibles, co-pays and other rip offs. 3- "Before you do anything you Must MUZZLE the Medical Liability Insurance Companies and the Lawyers that SUE the hell of anything that walks. " ANSWER: Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care does that. That is one in countries that have Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care, there is little or no such a thing as medical liability suites, because you will be suing the government which is meaningless since you can vote the government out, but you cannot vote out the CEOs of te big pharma. Reply
By Member: Europal        2010-02-05 I have lived and have friends in France and have seen 1st hand how much better their health care is in France compared to US while costing far less and NOT ONE French citizen ever going bankrupt due to health care costs. So the problem in US is that Big pharma & Big insurance totally owns the Republican party via their control of the right-wing Media in US which is almost all of the Media in US and as the results they almost totally own the Democrats too. Best example of which is the election of Scott Brown in MA, that is we need representatives that are to the far left of the Dems, to put them in line with European center right parties, instead this right-wing buffoon is elected from MA to make sure NOTHING will get done in the US Senate so that along with Senator from Aetna (Liberman) Big pharma & Big insurance will ontinue to make an extra $1trillionn per year on back of American people by making sure that No French or UK or German style real universal health care will get passed in US. Reply
By Member: Dollar        2010-02-05 Thanks for this complete document about how much better European, Canadian, etc. Universal health care is compared to US private for profit health care. Now I have seen replies to this post that state these non-sense as argument against: 1- Germany or X European country also have private health care offering 2- They pay more Taxes in Europe Answer to these non-sense: About private health care in Germany, etc., sure many countries with Universal Nationalized Health Care still have some sort of private health care, which is just fine. It is like having public transportation and having private cars or chauffeur driven limousines as well. I mean are you that brain washed by the Big pharma and their Agents (aka right-wing Media such as Talkradio psychos, Fix news, Wall Street Journal, etc.) as to say that because chauffeur driven limousine is better than public transportation such as the Metro that we should not have the Metro? So in Germany, UK, Canada, about 1% or less who are very rich use the private health care or come to US for their heath care, it is the great majority whom are not rich that use their Universal Nationalized Health Care systems which is the whole point being made as to why Universal Nationalized Health Care is essential for the well being of a countries people and economy. About Taxes in Europe: 1st, Taxes in typical European country are same as Taxes here in US for someone making less than $100K per year. When you include all the Taxes that we pay in US which are: Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, etc. To be exact Taxes in Europe are much more for someone making more than $1Mill per year than someone in US making same amount, which actually is just one more indication of how screwed up things are in US. But for someone making $36K to $100K per year, which is great majority of people, Taxes in typical European country are same as in US or even lower. You can verify this FACT here: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/gen_info/info_docs/tax_inventory/index_en.htm 2nd, even if we paid 2 to 3% more in Taxes, that additional amount would pale in comparison to the fact that health care costs in US can easily cost a family of 4 $20,000K per year and more when factoring in the exorbitant co-pays and deductibles that we pay here on top of the health insurance payments. Reply
By Member: Real_News        2010-01-27 And in response to those Republican loonies who would say something like: \"but Europeans and Canadians are having budget problems too due to health care costs........\" How can you people possibly be so uninformed in todays Internet age!!! Health care is taking about 10% of the GDP in Canada, whereas it is taking about 18% of the GDP here in US. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada This means by switching to a Canadian style Universal Nationalized Health Care, not will all Americans have health care for free, for the Taxes that they pay, as do all Canadians, but we would SAVE the US Government about $1Trillion per year. Which point proves what HOAXES Republicans are, because if Reps were really conservatives, then they would be for a Universal Nationalized Health Care system since that would mean SAVING the US Gov (and thus people) $1Trillion per year AND that is why the Conservative parties in Canada, in UK, in Germany, etc. are all 100% for their Universal Nationalized Health Care systems. Reply
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